At the height of her ministry, Pastor Paula White, 47, along with her ex-husband Randy White, pastored one of the largest churches in the nation, Without Walls International Church in Tampa, founded in 1991.

On Sunday, Feb. 23, the Senior Pastor of New Destiny Christian Center in Apopka, Florida—founded by the late Zachery Tims and his ex-wife Riva Tims—reflected on her past ministry successes and told her congregation, her purpose is greater than building a large church.

“I built the second largest church in the nation with 28,000 members and if I thought my purpose was just to build a big church, I’d be like [forget it],” she said.

Dressed in a t-shirt, jeans and knee-high leather boots, the charismatic speaker told congregants, “I know how to get crowds. You can buy crowds.”

She then added, “This is too honest for people.”

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