In a revealing interview aired on CNN Wednesday, one of the network’s most notable anchor’s, Don Lemon, surprisingly revealed that megachurch pastor Bishop T.D. Jakes of The Potter’s House in Dallas, Texas, played a huge role in his success as a journalist.

“It might sound strange, maybe even impossible, but the person who changed my life is someone I’d never even met. Through the power of his voice and his message, Bishop T.D. Jakes pulled me out of a crisis more than a decade ago and I wouldn’t be where I am today if I hadn’t heard his words,” Lemon said during the interview.

Lemon then called Jakes “the voice in my head” and told the inspiring pastor that he listens to his messages a lot. It was a confession that surprised Jakes.

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